I dont know what is nice..?

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Well. I dont really like Japanese food that much and I dont like Plain rice... or cold rice. I tried Japanese food because I thought that in the end I will find something nice. But Whatever I taste except 4 Pocky..I dont like it! So Im trying to find somethinghere but Im sort of struggled.... So Im asking 4 help.. Im looking 4 something Japanese. Only! And something that will be good to eat cold too. And that dont need to much ingredients and time... I know its robably impossible to find something..but plz! I want to give Japanese. Food a chance!
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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Hi Nick

Some questions first -

- What are your favorite foods? (not Japanese, just food in general)
- Pocky is basically a cookie with chocolate coating. Have you tried other Japanese snacks?
- Why do you want to like Japanese food so much?
- It could be that the rice you had wasn't very good quality. Where did you have it?

(Rice is the base of traditional Japanese food...if you don't like it you may have a hard time with traditional Japanese food in general. But, I'm still curious as to why you want to like Japanese food so much if you didn't like anything (except for a cookie stick) so far...)

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1. Well I dont know what they r but...Well..I Am a vegeterian. Erm. I like pasta and potatoes XD.
I like fruit but I aint too much into vegetables dough. Except potatoes and salad is ok..And Tomto..wait thats a fruit dough XD....
I like things made from dough basically like Lasagnia pizza and all that..
And Sasuces!
I think u get the idea XD.
2. I have...A cokie with chocholate XP .
I havent tried much because all the snacks at the japanese shop r basically cokies with chocolate... :/...
3. I LOVE JAPAN!!! THE CULTURE!! ANIME AND MANGA!!!! But the only thing that goes in the way is food! So i thought that perhaps I'll like som,ething....

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Well, you don't say where you are from in your profile, so I dont know what access you have to Japanese groceries. But there are way more Japanese snack foods than Pocky. So you can just try other snacks, salty and sweet - candy, etc. Looking through a site like Jbox.com can give you an idea of what's available (and they have good descriptions) - even if you don't order from them.

You can also try some Japanese style breads, if you have a Japanese bakery in your area. If you can cook, try using the search box at the top of the page to look for 'vegetarian japanese' - there are lots of recipes.

Other possibilities are noodles (soba, udon) or okonomiyaki (kind of a savory pancake) - you can search the recipes with the search box at the top of the page.

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Just a question... it's just curiosity.
How can you be a vegetarian and not like veggies???? o___o

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You can love japanese culture and not like its food... I mean I have lots of friends that are japan lovers and they just don't do the food. You won't be less "true" because of that! ;)
For example, when i go to manga-cons here there are lots of ramen to eat and i just don't like them. So i end up eating spanish omelette sandwich, lol!!

But yeah if you like pasta you may like soba or udon...

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Fruit and sugar and starch usually. I've known a number of people like that. It's not vegetarian as in liking veges and wanting to be healthy, it's vegetarian as in won't eat an awful lot of things, one of which is meat. It (and I'm generalising furiously and not making any judgements on this particular person) gives the picky teenager a moral excuse for pickiness. If you just don't want to eat stuff your mother will make you sit at the table until you do, but if you call yourself a vegetarian she feels morally obliged to cook what you want to eat.

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

hello nick
you like "sasuces" -sausages? you don't like veggies? you're what we over here call a " puddingvegetarier"- a person who won't eat most meat OR weird vegetables and survives on sugar, milk and starch. it's not a clever thing to do.
if your mom can't cook (mine certainly couldn't) you will have to learn how to do it yourself.
shop for some nice, fresh, colorful veggies, grab some soy sauce, ginger and lemon and get used to them. they are your friends. fresh veggies are always very nice. now you know! ^^

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

I thought he meant "sauces".

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sauces? that's possible, too. sauces are good, we should all practice saver snacks and use condiments.. i was puzzled about my "sausage"-interpretation.
hm. she loves japan. the culture. as seen in manga and anime. oh, my.
well, if the urge for exotic cuteness gets young people to eat their vegetables, it sure must be a good thing.

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And it's a good sign that post-WWII prejudices have finally died away.

I didn't go and look at Nick's details; I'm sorry Nick, I assumed you were a boy! My prejudices re eating habits are showing.

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Well, your favorite foods sounds kinda sorta similar to mine... minus the dislikes, I like almost everything.

That said, I definitely agree on the udon, soba, soumen, ramen... some kind of noodles! Although if you don't like soy sauce, most of the Japanese style broths probably won't appeal to you. (I would happily eat udon plain, but I suspect that's just me...)
Have you tried tamagoyaki? It's tough to make, but it tastes sooo good.

And nothing is wrong if you don't like a lot of Japanese foods. It doesn't mean you love Japan any less - I mean, you're trying it! That's a lot more than I can say for even some of the exchange kids in Japan!

Good luck with your search!

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Weeel thats a lot to answer to.
At 1st. i am vegeterian not cuz I am picky. Meat is soooo good! BUT! I dont want to hurt the animals.
I'll agree on carrots too then. :P .
And its ok. ppl that actualy see me think i am a boy too.. So its ok XD . ima tomboy.
AH!
Im from poland..BUT. I live in UK.
I kno where to get the food from.
Eh. Nah My mum cant cook oO .uh..scary XD .
Erm yea I can cook no problems..And soy sauce is ok as long as not too much..and I dontlike Ramen ^^''''''.
THx guys.

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Strictly speaking there is no vegetarian Ramen. And even if you did eat meat there is no 'nice' Ramen available in the UK, certainly nothing my Ramen loving husband would recommend. (He can't imagine enjoying it in Spain either)

If you like pasta you would probably enjoy Hiyashi Chuka. These are ramen style noodles eaten cold and there is a vegetarian version available with a nice sesame flavour sauce. You can eat this with tomato slices, perhaps some omelet strips and, if you're in the UK, you might like to try some of the Quorn deli slices available from regular supermarkets - just shred them. If you don't like cucumber, add some other salad ingredient and you have a genuine Japanese meal. Hopefully, as a pasta lover, you'll like it.
The vegetarian version I know of is available at the Rice Wine shop in London
http://www.ricewineshop.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=noodle&ca...
Product N160 (the first one) version B
You can get it by mail order if you live elsewhere.

Udon and Soba noodles have been mentioned. Soba noodles are made from Buckwheat (in Polish - Gryka zwyczajna). Hopefully you already think buckwheat is nice. There are many ways of cooking with gryka zwyczajna in Japan but this food is not so easy to find in Europe - but I can help with recipes if you want to explore Japanese soba noodle and soba grout cooking.

Personally I think you would like good Udon. Udon is generally served with a fish broth, but really nice udon (which isn't easy to find outside of Japan) only needs a splash of soy sauce. You could try buying ready made udon which comes 'fresh' in packets from the refrigerator or dried, or you could try making it yourself. This would be my suggestion for trying 'nice' udon.
Maki has posted a recipe: http://www.justhungry.com/2006/01/imbb_22_kitsune.html
And so have I: http://justbento.com/forum/adventures-udon-making

If you want to seriously try any of these Japanese foods and need some more help let me know. As you can see, I am based in London.

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Oh well thx!
I could try but hey. Fish is still meat XP .
and I dont like sesame seeds. XD .
haha this is funny isnt it? XD .
Right now Im not. Hungry...soooo it'll be hard to judge it. therefor I'll look at it tomorrow XD .

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what about nice, freerange eggs? no dead animals!^^ try making tamagoyaki, if you eat them.
and tofu can be very nice, too. it just smells weird when you open the package- treat it well and it is lovely!
and everything with beans or lentils or chick peas (hmmmmm, chick peas!) is a good source of protein, too. they don't have much taste on their own, so can put lots of different tastes and spices into the dish.
do you like indian food? there should be a lot of that to be had in gb, if my english-textbook-knowledge isn't completely outdated. lots and lots of vegetarian dishes in indian food! and lots of fun with spices..

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Nick wrote:

I could try but hey. Fish is still meat XP .

Yes it is.

I don't really understand why you have said this. I tried to give you vegetarian option that did not involve fish (i just mentioned that udon is generally eaten with a fish sauce but that this is not necessary, particularly if the udon noodles are good ones.) I hope I did not give the impression that I think that dashi/fish broth is vegetarian.

I love good, homemade udon noodles (which are vegan) with just soy sauce and just the tiniest splash of vinegar. I also like it a lot with the addition of a very, very lightly poached egg and a little bit of chopped spring onion/scallion.

If you don't like sesame sauce, perhaps you could try the Hiyashi Chuka version A in that link. This has a lemon flavoured sauce.

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Oh ye tofu! Good idea! I'll try Udon too! it looks werd but perhaps :>.....
I also remember I made Dango once...
Disgusting XD.

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i understand... my mum would have never alowed me to be a vegetarian while being a teenager just because of those reasons you say. But she is very VERY stubborn, lol!

I think that's completely unhealthy. Veggies are good :D

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do you actually like something? o_o
Why don't you try something less "exotic"? my impression is that you are doing japanese food because it's cool not because you really like it. And i guess you are very picky on how your food looks not on its flavor. Japanese food (not sushi, i mean the food that japanese people eat everyday) can be a little strange for us occidentals at first.

You say your mum can't cook so... maybe you don't like veggies because your mum is a bad cook? (no pun intended here!) This happens to my hubby and he actually likes his veggies and eats them even when i'm not home. So why don't you try to cook your veggies, try them and then decide?

If you like meat, then EAT it. That "no animal harm" seems like a poor excuse to me. I totally respect vegetarians but sincerely i do not believe that a teenager should stop eating meat while they are still growing up, specially if they don't eat anything else!

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rehfilet wrote:

hm. she loves japan. the culture. as seen in manga and anime. oh, my.
well, if the urge for exotic cuteness gets young people to eat their vegetables, it sure must be a good thing.

oh my. OH MY.
most fangirls i know won't eat veggies even if their lives depend on it. They get feed on japanese junk food and think they are totally healthy.

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Have you tried teriyaki sauce?

... It might appeal to your sweet tooth. Marinate some firm tofu and then grill. You can also simmer the tofu in teriyaki sauce for a softer texture.

If you decide to try udon, you can make a mild dashi by using the soaking liquid from soaking dried shitake. Heat and add a splash of soy sauce, some chopped green onions and you are good to go. And if you aren't opposed to MSG, add a pinch of that.

You say that you don't like plain or cold rice, how about warm rice sprinkled with furikake? Read the labels and avoid the ones that say "bonito" (fish). You could also try some Japanese pickles (tsukemono). The variety of pickles (all vegetables) goes on forever. While most are salty or vinergary, there are some that are sweet. Read the labels and ask people in the stores. If you like these, then you will able to make onigiri and cute shapes for your bento.

If you are able to find a Japanese food store, you will find a dizzying variety of snack foods. Currently in my stash are Wasabi Peas, some kind of green powder-coated pistachios, and some Vegetable Stix which are like skinny chips. Salty, crunchy, no meat, but not particularly healthy in large quanitities. Also "senbei" is the word for Japanese crackers. You'll find round, square, flat, fat, salty & sweet.

You might also try some of the Japanese soft drinks. I've tried one that comes in a glass bottle with a marble under the lid. You bang the marble into the bottle in order to drink. I've also tried Calpris and an orange drink that was sweeter than orange juice, but still contained orange pulp. There are interesting things in the beverage aisle.

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I'm not sure i'm really following you with your motives...

all i know is that you remind me of my cousin Dakota, he loves anime, manga and all that japanese fashion stuff. yet he is extremely picky eater and only eats bread and meat (though you dont like meat)... I'm not saying its possible for you but I know that because of his diet he now has extremely bad health issues (and weight issues) and hes only 17!!! I don't think he has ever eaten a vegetable in his life (save for tomato sauce for spaghetti) or the diced onion on McDonalds burgers...

I think that a balanced diet is good, and i'm sure you've heard that a thousand times.... Maybe its time for you to stop ruling your life by your taste buds and start changing your diet....

example:: I used to HATE tomatos, absolutely loathe them. but one day i decided that I was going to have a slice or two of tomato a day and get myself used to them.. and over time i did, and now they are apart of my daily diet. you have to train your taste buds, just like you have to train yourself to be good at sports, or math or driving or even walking!

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I don't think that cutting out meat is such a big deal. I stopped eating meat as a teenager and I am still 6'0" (~1.82m, quite tall for any woman). I would say quite honestly I had a horrible diet when I was still eating what my mother cooked (generally high in fat and lots of processed foods) which changed when I went vegetarian. I actually am far healthier and thinner than anyone else in my family, whom all struggle with weight related ailments.

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totally agreed

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If you don't like Japanese flavors, just stick to pocky (and try yan-yan, it's about the same but in a different format); I gather that you're young, it's possible your tastes will change as you get older. Give it ten years then try again - if you still don't like it, nothing wrong with not liking Japanese food.

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I became vegetarian at 11 or 12 (so long ago now that I can't quite remember!) due to my beliefs about animals. My family joked that I was the most unlikley veggie due to only ever eating potatoes and meat! I knew straight away that I was going to have to change. Mum cooked the usual Sunday roast dinner and I had everything except meat and gravy. The boredom with my diet forced me to do something!

Laura P makes a really good point about retraining your taste buds. I suppose that's what I did. Now I eat any vegetable (except both types of artichokes as I haven't a clue how to prepare or eat them!) and can rustle up a fab veggie version of most recipes. I'm still learning about Japanese food and how to 'convert' it to veggie as bonito flakes/fish stock are everywhere so I find Maki's regular vegan recipes a lifesaver.

Learn to love tofu. I could be wrong but I bet you are thin, judging by what you have said so far, so fried tofu may not be as much of a problem for you as it is me at my grand old age of 37! Use lots of marinades and flavour and you will realise that being a 'bland' food is a bonus as you can flavour it with everything else you cook with.

I think your choices are limited. Learn to adapt to the diet you want or forget about it for a few years and eat as varied a diet as possible whilst you learn about healthy eating.

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This is very true!!! marinades are definatly a good idea for masking the "bland" flavor of many vegetables.

Mushrooms are a very good example, very bland with a meaty texture. So sautee them with a little steak sauce (if theres a vegetarian version out there) or some dry steak rub. because of its meaty texture mushroom is a very good alternative to meat for vegetarians. i'm a meat eater but when i eat a portobella mushroom burger i dont even miss the beef pattie.

I'm not too savvy about what vegetarian alternatives are out there but if theres such a thing a vegetarian beef broth (or even organic beef broth if you want to go that route) try masking the flavors of vegetables with it. Boil carrots, asparagus, cabbage, etc.. in the beef broth alternative. it will give it a deep beefy flavor without skipping out on the benefits of the vegetable or adding too many empty calories.

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I sautee mushrooms with a little olive oil and some mild, dried chili (called here "guindilla"), that's my fav side dish.
My mum sautees them with olive oil and garlic.

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Sautéed in butter and garlic, or just butter. Scrumptious.

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Artichokes are one of my favorite vegetables, in fact that was my dinner on Tuesday night. I usually just steam them after a thorough washing and have a mayonnaise based lemon dip for the leaves and heart. You eat the the leaves by scraping the meat off with your teeth, easiest if you hold near the point and pull the leaf from between your teeth. and for the heart you just cut away the fuzzy part and it is good to go.

There are plenty of other ways to prepare artichokes, like stuffing and pickling, but they seem more complicated and like more work than simply steaming them.

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And the other sort of artichoke you just treat like a potato. I'm not that keen on them though. Much prefer the leafy thistle ones.

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of course!!!
I was just talking about nick's case; i mean if your diet is balanced, being a vegetarian is such a good option! but that's not nick's case so I don't think it's a good idea for her! :)

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TofuWarrior wrote:

Now I eat any vegetable (except both types of artichokes as I haven't a clue how to prepare or eat them!)

My mum prepares them this way: she buys them, takes off all the hard and woody parts until you have the tender part of the inside of the artichoke, then washes this tender thing, cuts them in two and boils them in salted water until they are ultra soft.
Then heat a little olive oil in a pan (like 1 or 2 tbps), add spanish ham cut in little chunks (you can add some groud meat if you like or just some garlic to go vegan, but it's yummy with meat) and toss it for 1 or 2 minutes. Add the boiled artichokes, let them roast for 5 to 10 minutes and voi-la! ^^

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Thanks for the artichoke recipes. I might splash out and buy some. I'll come back to you when I do!

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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

I'm not really a big fan of Japanese food, either, and what I do like is quite similar to things I'm already familiar with (tonkatsu, yakiniku, and tempura for example). If you can cook, it's so much easier to make variations on things to reflect your own tastes. I'm not a fan of raw vegetables like carrots and broccoli, so I typically cook them lightly with garlic, olive oil or butter, and a splash of soy sauce.

Have you tried Japanese style curry before? It's incredibly easy to make using a store-bought roux base. You say you like potatoes and carrots--2 of the best things to put in it; I also like to include peas and onions. Tastes great with plain rice, pasta, or udon noodles. Or what about yakisoba? It's just fried noodles with vegetables like cabbage, onions, and/or carrots and a special sauce. Gyoza are quite good and you can find these with all kinds of fillings. Again, very easy to make at home (even from scratch); you could even cook them in vegetable broth for soup.

If you really want to like the food, just keep trying it. It can take many tries before you finally develop a taste for something--if you ever do. Your tastes can and will change with age (mine sure have over the years), but don't force yourself too much. Liking Japanese food is not some requirement for liking other aspects of the culture.

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If you want to be "vegetarian" but also "healthy" you are going to have to learn your way around a kitchen, and fast.

I'm trying not to judge but I know so many people my own age like you - and I know you're looking for a fast way out of taking the responsibility for your dietary choices.

I agree with everyone saying that you need to systematically try new stuff, cooking it for yourself. I thought I hated pomegranate because I drank a POM tea once and it tasted like crap. Now I love Pomegranate! Same thing with beets - I didn't think I'd like them but I do!

Based on what you said you eat in general, you really really need to start reading the labels on things. I think you would be very shocked to learn how much salt and sugar you are taking in.

Also, I don't know which anime/manga you watch, but in the ones I watch, when the girl gets upset she eats pocky and everyone tells her she's going to get fat! As a matter of fact, the Japanese government is making restrictions on people's weight now - if you get too fat, your company's has to pay more, and from what I understand of the Japanese business, you get one chance to redeem yourself through nutritious/fitness programs and then you'll probably be fired. Also, they are not very tolerant of hefty people there (this is anecdotal evidence - sorry!)

If you really want to explore food and find things you can eat within the limits you have set for yourself, then this forum is a great place to be. Also, the UK has far more options for vegetarians than, say, the US. I'm not sure if they actually have this show on tv in the UK, but on BBCAmerica we have a show called "You are What You Eat." Jillian McKeith is a wingnut sometimes, but a lot of her advice is very good, and the people on her show are only allowed to eat vegetables, so it has some good tips on surviving on vegetables only without making yourself very sick (see my comment about salt intake.)

However, if you aren't willing to try new things, or retry old things in a new way, and stick to the fast-and-easy diet, then there is only so much we can do for you.

Also, PLEASE PLEASE begin taking multi-vitamins. You can get a cute pillbox or furikake container and put a vitamin in it in your bento every day. I am sorry if this came out very critical but it makes me sad to see young people who can do anything they set their minds to stuck in a rut, and not aware of their own capabilities.

hana.yori.dango

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One more thing: don't give up on tofu! It can take a few tries before you find a way of cooking it that you really like! I had tofu last night - I took some tofu, some chicken, and this awesome salad dressing that I use for everything, fried them up in a pan and poured it over some brown rice. Mmmm! I wanted seconds!

I also tried making dango and mine sucked too...how could you fail me, Cooking With Dog?!

hana.yori.dango

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The most important thing is to reject all the hard leaves. And be sure to boil the enough to make them very soft and tender, otherwise you'll end up chewing a woody leaf and you'll hate it!

good luck :D

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You're oh so right!!

I have a friend in the north of spain (i've talked about nutrition habits in that zone before in other posts) that only eats potato, bread and cheese (and the occasional meat, of course). Needless to say, she is extremely over-weighed and of course has vitamin needs and all sort of health problems to the point her daughter was born with lots of health problems too.

And the worst of this is that she is not aware of her problem. She feeds her child the same way as she feeds herself. The doctor told her she'd die at the age of 40 if she carries on this way but she doesn't care. I wonder if that would be considered suicide!

Yllsa
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Re: I dont know what is nice..?

Read this thread!: http://justbento.com/forum/difference-time-makes

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